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Thursday April 09, 2009 at 9:01 am
Easter Severe Weather & April 9th Tornadoes


10 AM Wednesday Update... The Polk county NOAA weather radio is operational again.

8PM Sunday Update... Last week I mentioned something new coming to KATV weather.  It's something that involves you and your help.  I should have more details later this week.

2 PM Sunday Update... Another hail picture.  This one is from Vickie Bowen in Crossett.

10:30 AM Sunday Update... Here's a picture from Emily Stover in Banks, Arkansas.  Looks like the kids are looking for hail stones instead of Easter eggs.

9:30 AM Sunday Update... Here's a picture of hail from Bess Porter this morning  at  Blacksnake road and Mt. Pine Rd in Hot Springs.  Please keep pics. coming to photo@katv.com

8 AM Sunday Update... Hope everyone is enjoying the day with family.  The storms moving into the state will have the potential to produce some hail and gusty winds.  Please stay safe, but if you have any hail, send pictures to photo@katv.com

There will be the potential for some heavy rainfall.  It was nice to see the rain stayed away from central Arkansas early this morning, but that wasn't the case for western areas of the state.  I'll keep everyone updated if anything changes.

8:30 PM Saturday Update... The tornado that hit Sevier county (DeQueen) into Howard county has now received a rating of EF3 with winds around 140 mph.  According to the National Weather Service office in Shreveport, 7 were injured near Dierks.  The storm path was 30 miles long and its width was .5 miles.  It started near Eagletown, Oklahoma and ended 3 miles north of Dierks.

4:30 PM Saturday Update... I just got off the phone with the National Weather Service and their survey of the Mena tornado is finished.  The path was 14.5 miles long starting .7 miles S-SE of Potter ending 3.2 miles NE of Ink.  At one time the tornado was .6 of a mile wide.  They are now on their way to survey another tornado right on the state line with Oklahoma.  This was produced by the first storm that rolled through Polk county Thursday evening.

Below is an image of radar velocities.  The radar is located near Fort Smith.  The reds indicate air moving away from the radar and green is towards the radar.  Where they come together indicates the location of the tornado which is on the north side of Mena.

7 AM Saturday Update... Devin uploaded a pic and it's on the You News TV section of the website.  I will also show it on Saturday Daybreak....Thanks!

8 PM Friday Update... Devin, you can send pics to photo@katv.com.

From everything I can assess this afternoon, there have been 6 confirmed tornadoes across Arkansas.  2 in southern Miller county.  2 in Polk county (including the big one in Mena), 1 in Sevier county, and one in Ashley county.  The Sevier county tornado has a preliminary rating of EF1.  The Ashley county tornado was EF2.

1 PM Friday Update... The National Weather Service tells me they have seen EF3 damage so far in Mena.  They are still in the process of looking at the damage so this is subject to change.

9 AM Friday Update...Here's a picture from Steve Watson on Rich Mountain near Mena.  Unbelievable. I will have to go back and make sure, but I think it was the second storm that did all the damage in Mena. 

9 AM Friday Update... Let's keep all of those in Mena in our thoughts and prayers as they recover from the twister that hit last night.  I just opened my e-mail and see there are many, many pictures of hail from all of you.  I will go through and post some soon.

7:30 PM Update Thursday... Strong circulation moving just north of Mena

Before I get to the severe weather chances late Thursday, I wanted to talk about the big snow of January 1988 many brought up in the previous blog posting.  I dug through a couple of big boxes of pictures and this is what I found.  You can see the driveway I shoveled in the first picture and the big mounds of snow on the side.  It's 1988 and you can tell by the cars out there.  The second picture is looking up my street. 

The third picture is just something I stumbled on from my two years in Missoula, Montana.  It's the view I woke up to everyday.  Beautiful isn't it?  Look at the bottom of the picture.  It was taken on March 14th, 1997.  That winter, Missoula had a record breaking 111 inches of snow and I enjoyed every flake of it!  I remember it snowed well into May that year with major flooding following due to the snow melt.   It was a shock to a guy from Arkansas.   I would drive to work in heavy snow with deer running in front of me.  It just became a part of living in the tundra I guess.

Now our chance for severe weather is there late today into tonight.  All the ingredients are there for severe thunderstorms except deep moisture.  SPC has issued a moderate risk which is really no surprise.  I expect a narrow time frame late today for the development of severe thunderstorms and a risk for a tornado or two across eastern Oklahoma into western Arkansas.  After that, I anticipate a the main threat to shift to hail and wind.  I will continue to monitor the situation all day.   Don't forget we twitter in the weather center.  The address is twitter.com/katv_weather.

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Comments on Easter Severe Weather & April 9th Tornadoes
Devin Flemens
Hey Todd looks like storms and heavy rain friday night.Let us know how much rain we could see.

Devin Flemens
Hey Todd when are you going let us know what you have been talking about? Well look like some heavy rain at the end of the week.

Devin Flemens
Todd we got 3.1 inchs of rain from the storm.

Missy
Thanks Devin for the information. Looks like we are inan active weather pattern right now. I just pray we don't see any more really bad tornados. Everyone take care and watch the sky this spring.

Marsha Daniel
Thanks Todd for your broadcast last Thursday night. You kept apologizing for breaking in, I did not care. I was nervous about the weather and to know what is going on just gives me and mine peace of mind. We live in Montgomery county It is nice to know that people in central Arkansas care about their rural Arkansans.

Robert Rowland
Rain total is 1.58" here in Possum Grape, AR at my home!! Temp now is 54!

Devin Flemens
Missy i dont know who was injerd at dierks but dont think it was anyone very bad,and no them homes are fine it hit out at the lake and at holy creek bridge if you know where that is. Its about 3 miles north of dierks.

Kenneth Martin
Ha Todd, We just had pea sized hail for about 1 minute and lot of intense lightning at 7:18 a.m. this morning and very heavy rain and the current temp. is 50 degrees just imagion if the sun was out and 80 degrees and very unstabled it would be real bad I would think If this system would have hit in the evening it would have been bad. We just luck out from all the bad weather alot but not all the time sometime our luck run's out like last thursday evening with the TORNADO'S MAYBE NO MORE THE REST OF THE SPRING BUT DON'T THINK WE WILL BE THAT LUCKY RIGHT?!!!!!!!!! IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR HERE IN ARKANSAS PEOPLE BETTER WATCH THE SKY THIS TIME OF YEAR.

WeatherFantatic
Todd and Bloggers,

I picked up just under 3 inches here in WLR! 2.85 to be exact! Very nice that we got a good soaking, especially for the ground to absorb all of it.

Ninja,

If you guys end up chasing, look me up will ya? I've never been and would love to experience it first hand. I'm sure we'll have more opportunities in the next 2 months.If it can't workout, then I understand. Do you ever chase in Oklahoma or Kansas? That would seem to be ideal when the dry line becomes more active later this month and into May.

Thanks and Happy Easter to all!

Rick
DEAR TODD AND WEATHER BLOGGERS, ACCUWEATHER.COM LONG TERM SAYS 26TH WILL BE 85 WITH SEVERE WEATHER, SINCE THIS IS SO FAR OUT, IS IT BEST NOT TO TRUST THIS READING?

Missy
Devin, this is Missy the lady who is from Dierks. My family was the Kirby's. Anyway, could you please tell me who was injred at Derks and if any of the houses on the outside of town on highway 70 were damage? We still own a chicken farm though there are no chickens in it. If you want to email me my email address is melissa.wesley@sbcglobal.net Thanks.

Devin Flemens
Hey Todd we got 3 inches of rain here in umpire today it got heavy.

Caleb
Todd , do you think that are main threat for severe is tonight thats what accuweathers website says?

mary varela
everyone was worried about the tralior park in sevier county my mom lost everything. she lived accross the street from the tralior park. oone has even seen or even said anything about her house al all.

David
1988 snow gave snow to alot of places all over.. It was

I was living In chattanooga Tn at the time and we got 7- 11 inches In 1988 . The 1988 snow was the Big boy

But In 1993 they got 20 inches all time record for them .

Around here snow chances are the same but they track of the storm means all or nothing with amounts .

Here is that same storm over northern Georgia and the deep south of 1988 picture...

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hun/events/Jan1988snow/1988Snow_2.jpg

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hun/events/Jan1988snow/010788surface.jpg

Devin Flemens
Todd the rain just started here and its heavy looks like its going to be a wet one to day

Devin Flemens
Hey Todd thanks for the update i have been waiting to see how big it is the damage is like nothin i have ever seen before.I am starting my job for the corp at dierks lake on the 26 im sure there will be alot of clean up.I will put up more pictures of it when i take some more.If you ever want to come look at the damage let me know and i can take you and show you everwhere it hit.

Bobby Powers
WeatherNinja, it looks like I stand corrected on the differnce between the enhanced fujita and the old fujita. I was working on the knowledge that the old scale rated the wind speeds higher than the new scale does. I am correct about that, but did not get the translation across. The new enhanced fujita was developed to give a more accurate measurement of wind speed in a tornado based on the damge to different construction material. Even us old guys have a lot to learn. Thanks for the clairifaction. Let me know if you need a chase buddy! I have not done much chasing because the topography is so hard to chase in. I would be more comfortable chasing with someone that has experience and knows what road they are on. Most of roads around here run in a circle and that makes it hard to run the right angle to chase a dangerous storm.

The WeatherNinja
My prayers go out to all those affected by Thursdays storms. The recovery will take a long time (belive me) and those affected will need a lot of help. The people of Arkansas are fantastic and will be there for all who need assistance I can assure you.

I have not seen a lot of pictures except for those on the NWS web site and local media but it looks like many of the houses had siding and were not brick. I would like to see some more pictures to determine if brick homes would have made a difference in the damage totals.

The Fujita scale and the Enhanced Fujita scale are located on the NWS-Little Rock website : http://www.srh.noaa.gov/lzk/html/efscale.htm You can see the differences in the old and new scales. This tornado would have been rated between F2-F3 on the old scale. On that scale and F4 would have had winds in excess of 200mph. The Sherwood tornado last year was an EF2 (on the high end) and even brick homes suffered extensive damage.

It could have been much worse. I was out in 4 counties but did not see any tornadoes. I only encounterd hail a little less than a quarter size and winds of 39mph. They kind of feel apart as I was moving from one to another. It was fun though.

Take a look at this video from the Murfreesboro TN tornado. Pretty impressive although the guy doing the filming should have taken cover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSHkgT-uKU

Great coverage by the way Todd & channel 7 on Thursdays storms

Happy Easter everyone. I hope the Easter Bunny brings me some new radar software!!!

Ninja

Devin Flemens
Hey Todd i didnt see my pics on tv but my family did i was out hunting thanks for showing them.How about the heavy rain sunday is it still on track? If you could would you put a map togather to show us the track of the tornados.

Bobby Powers
Todd, Devin, and weather bloggers, Wow! Very impressive damage from Mena. There are lots of familiies counting there blessings this Easter Weekend. So many more people could have been killed in this large tornado. The warning systems are working. My hart and prayers go out to the families of those injured and the ones that lost their lives. Very tragic!

For you weather nerds out there that would like to understand what conditions came together to produce this strom go check out this link from the NWS. The radar return is classic and you can see very clearly the winds moving toward and away from the radar as it moved right through down town Mena. I am not an expert on reading radar returns, but I think you can see debrie reflecting on the radar return. Maybe Todd can confirm this.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/lzk/html/svr0409b.htm

They give an excellent break down of the all the conditions that came together to produce this torado. It could have been worse and I agree with Devin that some of the damage looked like EF-4 damage. Keep in mind Devin, the rating system changed a few years ago. This tormado most likley would have been rated an F-4 under the old rating system. Now they take into account the construction quality of the buildings and homes that were damaged. I did hear that some of the homes that were sweeped of their foundations were of brick construction. I think the NWS determines the power of the tornado based on the average damage it sees. These types of tornados do cycle while on the ground and intensity can go up and down. So some of the damge could have been EF-4 damage. Great observation! You are developing your weather skills! You could be the next weatherNija..!!!

I hope everyone has a Happy Easter and remembers where our blessings come from.

Devin Flemens
Hey Todd how about the storm in howard county? I sent my pics to you news tv.

Devin Flemens
Hey Todd or bobby can yall tell me how to send my pictures?

Devin Flemens
Todd i went and looked out at dierks lake did alot out there the strip look almost half mile wide it pulled up grass and it looks like the dirt has been swept,and where it went over the dam it put gravel in the road and broke some of the gard rail off. It broke the corp house in half and also blew the water plant has alot of damage.It also hit north of dierks and look like it went right down highway70.We are still finding stuff everwhere from where it droped it out here.I cant belive it is just a ef3 at mena it look like 4 to me on the news.

Bobby Powers
We are praying for the people of Mena! My heart goes out to them as they recover from this devastating strom.

Devin Flemens
Todd we are finding debree everwhere this morning most of it is tin and stuff that looks like come from a farm it must have been from the tornado that hit de queen, it was the worst storm i had ever seen that came over us here last night. If you would put us a map of the storms track when you have time.

marci
Well this storm hit sheridan

Devin Flemens
Todd we also found debree from something here lookd like maby out of a chickin house.

kENNETH MARTIN
HA TODD, THAT TORNADO DID HIT MENA, AR IN POLK COUNTY DEAD ON JUST LIKE I SAID IT GOING TO I TOLD THEM BEFORE IT GOT THERE I CALLED THAT ONE DIDN'T I BOY IT SURE GOT ACTIVE THIS EVENING ON THAT DRY LINE I TOLD YOU THE OTHER DAY IT WAS A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE HAVE A TORNADO OUTBREAK AND HERE IT IS THERE HAS BEEN ALOT OF TORNADO WARNINGS DOWN HERE AROUND MY NECK OF THE WOODS THERE IS ALOT OF STROBE LIGHTNING THERE IS ALOT OF ENERGY WITH THIS SYTEM DRY AIR PUNCHING INTO MOIST AIR LIFT. AND SUPERCELLS WITH HOOKS ECHO'S ON THEM CLASSIC

Robert
I see a strong super-cell with a tornado watch south of Texercana.

kenneth martin
HA TODD, PEOPLE IN POLK COUNTY IN THE MENA AREA BETTER BE WATCHING THE SKY FOR THAT TORNADO THAT IS A CLASSIC HOOK ECHO ON THAT STORM JUST TO THE SOUTHWEST OF MENA. AND THE N.W.S HAS A TORNADO WARNING OUT FOR THAT COONTY JUST WEST OF MENA LEFLORE COUNTY IN EAST CENTRTAL OKLAHOMA. TORNADO WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kaleb
Hey Todd, It's Kaleb again. Our school has just started the science fair. Since I want to become a meteorologist when I grow up I am going to do my project on meteorology. I was wondering if you had any suggestions. Also, I e-mailed the weather station here a while ago. I totally forgot what the e-mail was. I would like to have it so I could talk with you about the science fair project.

Thanks a lot, Kaleb

artswim
The weather right now feels just like it did in Conway in 1964 (I think that is the year of the F4). The barometer hasn't dropped like it did, yet. However, the sun was shining and we had a light rain. The weather was nice that day before the tornado.

Bobby Powers
Welcome to the blog josh. Glad you are here.

Devin, good call on the rain keeping severe weather chances down today. I don't see any rain falling in Little Rock, but radar return is showing rain. Looks like we are seeing some verga. I am sure the atmosphere will moisten up and the rain will fall. The lack of deep moisture is also slowing the development of severe weather for Central Arkansas. Todd pointed this out in his post. Keep an eye out for us and let us know if any storms develope in SW Arkansas. If they form down there they love to come up the interstate and hit Benton.

Josh Green
The pitures are just awesome! Good find! If only it would snow like that here just once... :(

Everybody stay safe this afternoon and into tonight with all of the severe weather. This is my first time posting on the weather blog section, but I have been reading for a while now! Keep up the good stuff!

I'm from Lawton, OK, where we get tornados all the time in that area, so severe weather has always intrigued me, even as a little kid. I really enjoy reading your posts and all of the comments from others on here! It makes for a fun day in an otherwise boring work day. Haha :P

www.myspace.com/joshgreenonline

twitter.com/joshgreenonline

Devin Flemens
Todd looks like some rain on the radar will this keep the sever weather down for today?? How about the heavy rain it looks like on sunday?

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